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What triggers the USB/power icon on the LCD?

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What triggers the USB/power icon on the LCD?

Postby m_g » Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:44 am

Hi all,

I have a GoPro 4 powered by an off the shelf USB cable (non-GoPro), with red and black conductors connected to a 5v converter receiving 12v power. All other conductors in the USB cable are left as is (ie cut and sealed to prevent shorts). There is no battery installed. For some reason, when the camera is first powered on, the USB/power icon briefly shows on the LCD, similar to what you get when you plug into a PC for memory card download. The reason I'm trying to get rid of it is that it the icon also randomly flashes during use, which affects the WiFi connection.

When you power the camera via USB directly from an AC wall source, this USB connectivity icon does not show. So there is something going on related to the power source or the converter, or the USB pins, I'm not sure.


Any ideas?Cheers
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Re: What triggers the USB/power icon on the LCD?

Postby suryaprihadi » Sat Feb 25, 2017 1:05 pm

This is probably what happens.

The hero4 uses USB chip for communication and charging.
So upon connection to its USB port, the chip will investigate first, is this a PC trying to communicate or a charger only USB connection ?
The problem with power injecting thru USB is that you are using 5V, which is USB standard, so the USB chip has to do its work and reduce the voltage to approx 3.6V to 4V to power the electronics.

If you did what I did longtime ago with dummy battery, its a 3.7V direct to battery bay, so no issue.

Now, i done long recording using power bank and USB into the GoPro, no issue with wifi cut out.
What probably happened is this :
- Your USB connection is not very good or not a true 1.5 amps. If you have bad intermittent contact, that may explain the camera trying to recognize again and again "is this USB data or charging ?"

- If you don't have enough power, perhaps the wifi chip with uses 100mAh may not get enough power.
If the USB chip of Hero4 is the same spec as the older hero3/3+ , a low voltage and over voltage condition will also effect the camera.

- Your 5V is not a clean 5V. Perhaps too many ripple during the voltage reduction.
A 220V wall plug USB charger sometimes do that, dirty power.

As long as you can remind yourself that a USB is not a true charging port, you would understand why all these has to happen :) meaning USB chip will do its work.

Now, with me able to do long record and operate wifi flawlessly using power bank USB to camera, I would suspect your 12V >>5V power kit is not really good/stable or clean.

Try the power bank method as verfication and let me know if that solves your problem.
Power ON the GoPro first and then connect USB power bank.
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Re: What triggers the USB/power icon on the LCD?

Postby rathiarp12 » Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:47 pm

The hero4 utilizes USB chip for correspondence and charging.

So upon association with its USB port, the chip will explore to begin with, is this a PC attempting to convey or a charger just USB association ?

The issue with power infusing through USB is that you are utilizing 5V, which is USB standard, so the USB chip needs to do its work and decrease the voltage to approx 3.6V to 4V to control the hardware.

In the event that you did what I did long-term prior with sham battery, its a 3.7V direct to battery narrows, so no issue.

Presently, i done long recording utilizing power bank and USB into the GoPro, no issue with wifi cut out.

What most likely happened is this :

- Your USB association is bad or not a genuine 1.5 amps. On the off chance that you have terrible discontinuous contact, that may disclose the camera attempting to perceive over and over "is this USB information or charging ?"


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